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Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.24 08:04:00 - [1] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 24/06/2011 08:04:23 Originally by: CCP Manifest The designs we will implement in game will not ** over the sandbox. And who guarantees us that? This is the problem when you lose trust and tell lies: you are seen as a liar forever. Also you had the EASY WAY to introduce MT in a EvE style: sell BPCs for Aurum and let us PLAY EVE LIKE IT'S MEANT TO. But no, you just had to introduce hideously looking, expensive and ignoramus items no one gives a *** about. Manufacturing a monocle with aurum BPC + PI materials = EvE. Buying out of nowhere crappy expensive and badly designed items = "new" CCP. The rot has percolated down but it starts from the top position and you know that. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.24 17:20:00 - [2] Originally by: Ranka Mei Edited by: Ranka Mei on 24/06/2011 16:18:42 Originally by: Mechael 1. The "CCP employer" expressing his "opinion" is a lead game designer. That has already removed visibility of faction standings so they can sell them. That has already moved fittings server side and limited you to 50 so they can sell you more. Oh, THAT's why they removed visibility of faction standings... so they can sell them. And the loot logs? How many aurum will those cost to get back? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.24 19:13:00 - [3] Originally by: The Mittani For me, the long knives come out if they start trying to mess with the gameplay itself with micros. Gold ammo, ships that are different from existing ships statswise, etc. In case you did not notice, the topic of the protest is exactly the plan at exactly making this. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.24 21:14:00 - [4] RE "loldevblog" The elephant pooped a mice! But hey, they are SERIOUSLY angered with us! Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 07:21:00 - [5] Originally by: San Severina Yo Pann, how many responses do you need before you respond & give us some answers? I think by now you should have a pretty good idea what the upset proportion of the community are thinking. Was this thread just a diversion, a place for us to blow off steam in a convenient single thread -easy to delete, later when you have bought a bit of time? Have you ever wondered why this company is called Crowd Control Productions? Because they corral people where they want. And we are not conforming to their strict rules any more. You just don't know that yet. You have been chosen to be Opted Out. They don't want you any longer. The new playerbase in their plans are rich Apple Store prepubescents and the related $99 license a year Apple Store programmers. We have been phased out We have been chosen for extinction Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 10:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Ravcharas On the upside CCP is leaking like a sieve right now. So there's still people in the company who cares enough to try to change the direction they're heading. It's kind of sad though that they cannot do it internally. It really says a lot. Because they are expendable pieces of meat like we are. Just look at the propaganda leaked PDF: on one side 20 rigged pages of high brass all vehemently supporting MT to the extreme extents. Then they put in 1 corner the 1 poor economist guy (who actually played EvE), the underling-below-everyone-else and therefore ignored and ridiculed. The fun part is that the 1 poor guy is the only EvE intern giving a ***** about the direction of the game. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 11:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Valuial ccp is so predictable, since the very begining of incursion, i knew it. So, to keep predictions on going, next step, ccp is harassed by investor, that are realising that's the management is completely out of reality, ccp will release dust514 and the other 16 year old aimed mmo in hurry to satisfy them, not that hard to predict, but hey they have "expert" (some of them play cov, so they must be expert... or drugged). Buffy mmo will dissappear as soon as it has been released. dust will be kicked out or will never achieve to be on top of battlefield and such other highly popular game. at this point it can be the end of ccp. In a way, i hope i'm wrong, but we will see if my experts are better than yours. You are not wrong. I have played a dozen of MMOs, most of them tanked because: 1) Their high brass thought to know it all and were FEARLESS. 2) Previous fiascos players kept badmouthing and keeping other players away. In fact Buffy and Dusty won't be exceptions, it happens all the time that previous disgruntled players WILL discourage others from joining the new games, will post terrible critics and sabotage all they can. All the failure MMOs behave like that. 1) Fearless 2) Bad mouthed 3) ... 4) Bought by EA. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 12:38:00 - [8] Originally by: CCP Manifest If some of my responses that I end up making do sound glib, I can assure you it is not because I don't understand the gravity of the situation at hand or the trueness of emotion/logic behind player opinion. It's because, frankly, of who I am. Furthermore, if only some stuff gets answers or some seemingly random threads get attention, its also the nature of that same beast. Thanks for listening. CCP Manifest why do you seem to be the only one employee left who makes sense? What do we have done of bad to deserve this complete sh!tting in face by CCP Zulu? With the crysis, where I live we struggle to eat the next day and he comes with his $1000 pants and rubs them in our face? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 12:41:00 - [9] Originally by: Gaius Marius Audene I've read a lot of these posts, but has anyone brought up the point that maybe CCP WANTS the older players to leave to make room for the masses? Can't have Dust and crap with a bunch of 4-6 year old toons running the show!! And we DO NOT WANT to leave. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 12:53:00 - [10] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 25/06/2011 12:53:29 Originally by: Neom Disaki The New York City of threads eh? Never sleeps. Wait in 3 or so hours when people come back and find out the CEO in person consider them poor muppets, statistics and challenges to put their money where mouth his. Do you put your money where your mouth is? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity

Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:07:00 - [11] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 25/06/2011 13:07:55 Another one bites the dust. Ombey, the creator of the famous game maps, has quit. ---------------------------------- I'm done. My annual subscription was due, and for the first time since Feb05 when I started playing, I let it lapse. I do love Eve, but this is....insane. EDIT- seeing as someone has linked to this post from EveO, I need to be clearer. I am not ragequitting, I am just lapsing in the hope it'll get better. I am enjoying playing tanks more than Eve, so it's a natural progression. I didn't want a fanfare, nor want this to be used as anything other than it is. PS. I didn't post anything on Twitter. I don't actually use Twitter and have lost my password for it Last edited by Ombey on Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:26 am, edited 2 times in total. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:53:00 - [12] Originally by: SunT zu So why do we even have / need a CSM. Seems its a waste of their time and efforts. They just get left out of the loop every time! Seems they are just a PR stunt from CCP to keep a "care about what the player thinks" front up. If I was Mittani I'd offer my resignation. This has been an HUGE spit on his face and on the face of the only one official player institution. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 13:56:00 - [13] Anyone knows why the ever-present 0.0 players seem to almost completely ignore this thread? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 14:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Agrikaan Edited by: Agrikaan on 25/06/2011 14:06:56 Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Anyone knows why the ever-present 0.0 players seem to almost completely ignore this thread? They are busy surviving crappy and broken nullsec game mechanics since 4 updates back. They could as well join the train. It's not like nullsec will be anywhere relevant AT ALL once your new gold plated AURUM overlords will send their golden supercarriers after you. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Miilla You are wasting your time talking to Hilmar, he is too self important, pompous, arrogant and egotistica to care. He atually believes Eve is an extension of the real world. He actualy beleves he innovated microtransactions into existence, and he actually believes he is changing the world. He makes Steve Jobs look relistic. I would not compare to Steve Jobs. Apple has somewhat more than 40k concurrent iPhones working. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:43:00 - [16] Originally by: Wakeland EDIT: Do people like the poster above me not realize it takes days for some of our accounts to go out? . ? . ? . We can let them hear us before we all fall silent from Quitting, so until then, DO NOT let this thread die. Did you know you may inquire your credit card company / Paypal for a chargeback? You actually get back your money. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:51:00 - [17] Originally by: Slightly Green Perpetuum Online seems good. Only played it for a couple of hours. It seems rather like Eve, only with robots. People have said it's a bit of a chore, but it honestly doesn't seem like more of a chore than Eve is. http://www.perpetuum-online.com/ is the URL, I think. ... and yeah, I think their auto-downloader is under a bit of pressure at the moment. There's actually an Eve channel in their chat channels now, and it has a dev all of its own allocated to it to answer questions. That's how seriously THEY are taking this whole debacle. The game has some boring things, like boring PvE (because in EvE L4 are SO exciting! Oh wait). Anyway isn't it nice they have devs chatting in game, like EvE used to have when it was good? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:56:00 - [18] Originally by: Shintai So even ÇÇP employees are jumping ship now. LOL! Do you mean the StevieSG quitting thing? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 25/06/2011 15:53:43 Originally by: Lili Lu Originally by: Miilla Originally by: leth ghost market yes, ganking yes scamming i suppose its possible even the ui is not far from eve infact its uncannily similar Confirm scamming is allowed by the owners. Also, what is bandwidth usage like for low bandwidth internets? (Im on EDGE/GPRS atm). Miilla, read the forums they have there. Look for the information there, and for forum personalities like yourself 365 days - 84.95 EUR / 94.95 USD (~21% discount) Much cheaper than Eve is :) Nice already. I cannot find the TRIAL information hmmm How long is that for? If Perpetuum devs are smart they are going to add a "EVEPLAYER" special redemption code with discount! Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 16:48:00 - [20] Wasn't CCP Manifest meant to post something by now? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity

Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus You're all going to be waiting awhile. I don't see how CCP can create a plan to roll back 3 years. More likely is silence until we leave with the hope that they can convert some sci-fi niche sales out of some other market. Don't know where they'll find a market for Eve other then in the game EveOnline. I suppose they will just ask $999 to freeware developers like me. Nasal beancounter voice To protect our PRECIOUS IP! Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:36:00 - [22] So, weren't us to hear something off CCP Manifest today? Thought so. If there are still some uncorrupted CCP employees out there PLEASE recall us, those who made EvE what it is. Don't let it die! Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.25 22:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Fix Lag Shutting down the main trade hub in the game: a sure way to demonstrate the awesomeness of CCP's latest patch. How did he describe it? "Most succesful patch ever", right? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:18:00 - [24] Originally by: Cpt Wrongway So let's see here... If we're up over 3000 subscriptions canceled that have been documented, let's not count the ones that weren't documented, and potentially future subscription cancellations, and we'll average the month subscription cost to $17.5 since PLEX costs $20 and direct card subscription costs $15. So... 3000 * $17.5 = $52,500 per month...* 12 months a year = $630,000 of yearly profit lost. vs. The $3000 or whatever made from the monocle sales...but I can't too many of the original customers making purchases like that every month...or quarter...or year...since the monocle lasts forever. The loss of more than half a million dollars a year isn't going to be taken lightly, especially considering the fact that x% of those customers would probably make a regular PLEX purchase...so let's assume that combining all the variables so far, CCP should be down at least $1mil per year...is my logic right? Hilmar said HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IT. He will only react AFTER he sees the actual subs drop. He's sure that in the end just 10-20 people will actually stop playing and the rest of this will result in a flop. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Dr 0wnage Edited by: Dr 0wnage on 25/06/2011 23:41:22 At page 308 i'm sure this post won't get much attention, but i'll throw my two cents in anyway. We are not CCP, we care. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Drifnir At the last fanfest, Hilmar said they like it when we cal 'Bull****!' on the work CCP is doing in regards to the 18-months gaffe and the threadnaught it sparked. Therefore this time it will be PURE LOVE! Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:31:00 - [27] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 26/06/2011 00:31:29 Originally by: Domina Santa Phrased mildly: CCP walked face first into a s.h.i.t storm! And their continued silence and refusal to make any statements beyond hastily written platitudes like the one CCP Pann delivered is only going to fuel the fires of malcontent. The s.h.i.t storm is now approaching a category 4, with a forecast of becoming a category 5 before hitting the Iceland coastline. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.26 00:37:00 - [28] Originally by: Gunther Gabel Is anything going to be done about the basically unplayable Mac client. between the disconnects for seemingly every session change and the right click menu just disappearing whenever it feels like it. I live in 0.0, either of those 2 things happen to you and you require a restart of the client during a fight is almost certain death. Mac fix is slated to be implemented soon(tm). Since you are in 0.0 you will be able to redeem with a special code "LOL0.0MAC" these cheap 30,000 aurum items: - Mac Enabler (+2 hope to see it work) - Lag squasher (-5 minutes removed from loading grid). Upgradable to -7 and then -10 minutes with further 10k and 20k aurum. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:42:00 - [29] Originally by: Nikki West Successful expansion is successful. I wonder how Hilmar defines success? It's all in the metrics! Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:08:00 - [30] Originally by: Estelle McDeal What could they ever reply to us? The truth? Then they are done. Ofc they planned to increase revenue with offering their own RMT via the NeX market. Lies? It will backfire on them once they offer non vanity items and this won¦t be in the too far future. It is not Zulus fault. Who is blaming anything on CCP Manifest? None, eh? Why? Because he posted like a proper employee, not like a douche. The power aurum items is one issue, acting like a ******* is another and just reinforces the flames. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity

Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.27 07:16:00 - [31] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 27/06/2011 07:16:51 Originally by: Selnix Originally by: Shayne Mudd The EVE Online community are NOT a bunch of mindless drones who are easily impressed with shiny objects. I would argue that this is EXACTLY what we are. Problem being that we want our shiny objects to fly around and make pretty explosions happen, not wander back and forth in a room that happens to be identical to every other person's wandering room whilst listening to the impatient hum of our computers' cooling fans on overload. I have one idea! Since staying in such a basement with humming computers' cooling fans is boring, CCP could introduce a new feature in our CQ "TV": a minigame where we can shoot at internet spaceships in an Excel-like interface and a mini-forum where to go troll at length. Oh wait... that was the purpose of EvE to begin with. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.27 07:21:00 - [32] Originally by: Iok Sototh What next, I need to fly to Jita to disable sounds? Well, you already fly to Jita to enable spam, don't you? Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.27 07:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Been trying to imagine this meeting for days now. Figure it goes something like this. Hilmar: "Guys, we are ready. Help us fix this. You are our only hope." (if his head has come that far) CSM: "Well it's going to be painful you need to do XYZ." CFO: "We can't do that we have to grow by X% in the next Y" CSM: "Can we have this guy leave the room?" CFO: "RAGE!!!" CSM: "I'm outta here, lets go get drunk." So it'd not be totally bad. They still get some alcohool in the process. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.27 11:18:00 - [34] Originally by: ArchenTheGreat Corporationism is like a virus. CCP touched Sony during making of Dust and now they too are infected. They are no longer a company. They're a CORPORATION now. Unfortunately I'm not sure what the cure is. Chapter 11 it is. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.27 22:12:00 - [35] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 27/06/2011 22:15:18 Originally by: Miilla Won't take many people to leave Eve to cause CCP some serious financial pain, perhaps say they lose 20,000 actual players (and thair MANY alt accounts), that is most likely one third of their customer base GONE. If you spent less time copy pasting the same 3 posts and more reading the Market Discussion forum (and GD) you'd have found the ~~leaked~~ financial statements and would know that they are already in financial pain. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.27 22:27:00 - [36] Originally by: Miilla Yes, and this can add to that substantially , like a straw on a camels back, and it wont take much of a straw to do that with cancellations. Which is my point. Well, at least we can know that: "We live in interesting times" and that the banks will be "seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing" Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.27 22:39:00 - [37] Originally by: Miilla No cash liquidity, that means they have to MONOTISE THEIR ASSETS, OR SELL THEM. CCP have NO CHOICE in the matter to survive or get bought up. Read the statements and look what they have filed as assets, so you will correct your statement. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.28 15:04:00 - [38] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 28/06/2011 15:04:40 Quote: - RMT... I like how you fight it everyday yet think of doing something similar They are not against RMT at all, they want to be the monopolists at it since otherwise it's direct revenue that gets lost. Quote: I imagine part of the reason some of the rage has subsided is the revelation of CCP's apparent financial problems. In that light it seems that they aren't simply ****ing in our eyes purely for greed, but perhaps in a desperate gambit to stop their ship from foundering. If this is true things must be fairly bad to employ such abrasive and unpopular measures. They could have come up with puppy eyes and asked for the playerbase help. They know EvE playerbase is actually a fan base. But no, they chose the "greed is good" social climber motto. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.29 08:06:00 - [39] Originally by: caldar ian and if you are in favour of MT you probably have more money than sense, and are used to buying your results. The issue is... many are used buying their results and are just fine with it. They know they'd not stand a chance without a solid wallet behind them. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.29 13:27:00 - [40] Would you believe? I went to try other games (no, this is not the unbelievable part ). I browsed their forums since they usually give an hint about the current status: - Whining and raging = normal. - Depression and indifference = things are going bad, Scotty! In several of them, even the bad ones you may find people using: "Did they pull an EvE?" to mean major screwup. Yes, "pull an EvE" is getting to be the 2011 version of "pull an NGE". Figures. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity

Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.06.29 13:54:00 - [41] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 29/06/2011 13:54:14 Originally by: Viking Sven Don't panic :P People aren't being banned for just voicing their opinion. Well, not anymore... there were those few key figures at the beginning (Helicity Boson, Angel Hun, a few others), but I think CCP realized trying to ban everyone that was angry with them would leave only them and a bunch of monocle-wearing trolls on the forums. It's too late, and Internet is hard to shut off. Here's one of the many places totally unrelated with EvE where even random players are talking about CCP's own NGE: Linkage. Auditing \| Research \| 3rd Party \| Collateral Holding \| EvE RL Charity

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